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ACY GTMI
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Posted - 2011.11.02 21:04:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:There are no real consequences, so there is no real morality. Games are not real. Do not confuse player behaviour with real person behaviour.
This is the part of it that I have had trouble with from the start. Maybe it's a 'me' thing, but my morals and ethics follow me where ever I go. It's not optional.
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ACY GTMI
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The Veerhouven Group
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Posted - 2011.11.03 01:29:00 -
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Kaylen Vimanis wrote:Not read all the 28 pages of content mainly because i cba.
But consider that; while playing any type of game, not just EVE that perhaps people use gaming as a release from RL. Sometimes people want to shoot easy targets or steal from players passively focusing their frustration on the target they have in front of them at that moment.
Please consider Castle Wolfenstein then. Eve has more than enough players with the same emotional needs. Better yet, consider taking control of your life.
One of the things I like about Madonna is her religion. One of the tenets is something like "You cause everything that happens to you." So, once again, take control of your life, or at least try. |
ACY GTMI
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Posted - 2011.11.03 14:54:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Being able to distinguish between reality and a game, often helps. But hey what do I know, apparently I'm shallow, fail at being a human, a troll, wildlife, have no morals, ethics and a rat bastard in RL. Oh yea and an asshat, let's not forget that. 
I think the point Issler is trying to make is that suicide ganker's actions in-game, although, "Just for fun". can have a significant effect on other player's gaming experience.
As an extreme example, I have been saving for two years to buy an Anshar. If some twinkie decided to gank it, somehow, I'm not going to take it well.
Yes, I have enough ISK to replace one, but the second one would have to sit in a hanger for about a year while I put together enough ISK to replace it.
To me, the loss of an Anshar, or even a Retriever are not on the same level as "Just for fun." or "Moar tears."
People who can't make that distinction are a danger to themselves, and others, both in game and IRL.
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ACY GTMI
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Posted - 2011.11.03 15:08:00 -
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Danks wrote:ACY GTMI wrote:
People who can't make that distinction are a danger to themselves, and others, both in game and IRL.
People who can't make a distinction between a game and real life are idiots who are a danger to themselves.
I'm suggesting that, in this game, the line is blurred. I spent two years of RL time getting the ISK together to buy that ship. |
ACY GTMI
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Posted - 2011.11.03 18:29:00 -
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Danks wrote:ACY GTMI wrote:Danks wrote:ACY GTMI wrote:
People who can't make that distinction are a danger to themselves, and others, both in game and IRL.
People who can't make a distinction between a game and real life are idiots who are a danger to themselves. I'm suggesting that, in this game, the line is blurred. I spent two years of RL time getting the ISK together to buy that ship. I'm suggesting if you get that worked up by a damn video game maybe you should take a step back. That also goes for writing long winded diatribes about how in-game actions reflect who you are IRL like some second rate philosophy student.
I'd suggest that you take a look at yourself. I know who I am, for better or for worse.
Suppose you spent two years building a ship in a bottle and your neighbor came over and smashed it against a wall.
No. I don't see the difference.
Also, I just noticed a Providence wreck off the Uedama/Sivala gate. I doubt that he self-destructed or got Concorded.
Part of the problem is that there are no repercussions for ganking. I saw a thread today about how to regain your Concord status in a day or so so that you can do it again.
Getting back to the Providence, I spent several days trying to have some effect on the ganking in Uedama and Sivala. I got pretty nasty about BCs with low sec statuses hanging around 10-30 km off the gates. End result? Nothing. I was never able to target a ganker before Concord got them, or their support industrial. Since losing their ship was part of the plan, there was nothing legal I could do.
What option does the ganked pilot have? Play by the same rules you do? Then what's the difference between you?
If I lost every ship I had to people like you, I still wouldn't stoop to your level. |
ACY GTMI
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The Veerhouven Group
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Posted - 2011.11.03 18:31:00 -
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Mag's wrote:The old adage applies here, don't fly what you can't afford to lose. 
I haven't bought it yet.
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ACY GTMI
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The Veerhouven Group
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Posted - 2011.11.03 19:00:00 -
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Mag's wrote:ACY GTMI wrote:I'd suggest that you take a look at yourself. I know who I am, for better or for worse.
Suppose you spent two years building a ship in a bottle and your neighbor came over and smashed it against a wall.
No. I don't see the difference. Which is your problem, not ours. Oh and the difference is you owned that ship in a bottle, but you don't own your ship in the game. One is punishable by the law and courts, the other isn't. (yes I know concord blows up the ship if suicided in high sec)
So, you apparently play for free? Must be nice. |
ACY GTMI
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Posted - 2011.11.03 19:01:00 -
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Danks wrote:
Also, racism. Nice man, real nice.
Racism? What have you been smoking? Is it racist to call you a person?
Nice to know that you aren't one after all.
And @ Mags, my ISK goes into my ships and equipment. You see, I have goals, and I get closer every day. What do you get out of what you do? |
ACY GTMI
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Posted - 2011.11.03 19:28:00 -
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Danks wrote:ACY GTMI wrote:Danks wrote:
Also, racism. Nice man, real nice.
Racism? What have you been smoking? Is it racist to call you a person? Nice to know that you aren't one after all. I'll stoop to your level, maybe you can understand that. "People like you" should not play VIDEO GAMES because you are very obviously emotionally unfit to handle it.
Sorry, I'll keep playing as long as I can afford, and there isn't much you can do about it.
It's pretty obvious by now that we aren't playing the same game. Just using the same server and client software.
Location: Currently circling the toilet bowl that is Eve. |
ACY GTMI
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Posted - 2011.11.03 23:47:00 -
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I guess the message is that people are faeces. Some more than others.
I had hoped for better.
Location: Currently circling the toilet bowl that is Eve. |
ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group
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Posted - 2011.11.04 01:12:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Xiozor wrote:If having your pixel spaceships blown up makes you feel sad or unhappy I suggest you get a grip of reality.
Your argument amounts to being angry because people who are playing Counterstrike don't try to RP a peaceful solution. See how far that gets you. Hey look at this...a voice of reason. A good post in the derpiest of threads. Let us all pray to see more of them.
Nothing invested in the game? No time? No subscription fee. How nice.
Location: Currently circling the toilet bowl that is Eve. |
ACY GTMI
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Posted - 2011.11.04 01:46:00 -
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Does anyone else keep up with the statistics on how many US citizens are currently incarcerated?
No?
How about 1 out of 100.
Is there a message there?
Location: Currently circling the toilet bowl that is Eve. |
ACY GTMI
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Posted - 2011.11.04 02:19:00 -
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@ Jaroslav Unwanted: Well said. Seriously.
@Xiozor: Want to be a human being some day? Pinocchio did it. Can you? I doubt it.
Location: Currently circling the toilet bowl that is Eve. |
ACY GTMI
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Posted - 2011.11.04 02:34:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Stabs random pirate in the back. Then throws the corpse down a black hole.
What Morals?
That's the attitude I like to see.
Did your parents cheat on their income tax, and each other?
Do you think that's ok?
Is that what you are going to teach your children?
Remember, morals are usually taught at home.
Location: Currently circling the toilet bowl that is Eve. |
ACY GTMI
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Posted - 2011.11.04 02:44:00 -
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Xiozor wrote:
CCP designed the game to be exactly like this, since 2003 people like you have voiced the same complaints over and over again and have been told in very plain language by the devs that it is a PvP game, deal with it. Stop trying to make EVE into something it isn't, go play Sims 3.
I've never played any other video game, and have no desire to. No Multi-Player games. No RP games.
I was hoping that this would turn into a full immersion space exploration game. That WE could prove we had learned something from several thousand years of war, atrocities, genocide.
I was hoping that all these smart people could show what the human race could really do if given the opportunity.
Frankly, if I was an alien and came across this planet, I would nuke it.
Location: Currently circling the toilet bowl that is Eve. |
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